Maischberger brushes Lindner's stomach – and then throws him off his head: "I reject that!"
Created: 2022-10-20 12:16 p.m
Christian Lindner (FDP) discusses with moderator Sandra Maischberger.
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Is the dispute at the traffic light bigger than previously assumed?
Christian Lindner is supposed to explain the background to “Maischberger” – and keeps a low profile.
Berlin – In her ARD talk on Wednesday (October 19), Sandra Maischberger wants to explain the chancellor's power word in all its mysteriousness: Minister of Finance Christian Lindner (FDP) is invited as a guest and is supposed to explain the background to the nuclear power plant runtime extension, which was pushed through through policy competence.
But Lindner finds it difficult to book the decision as a win for the FDP: "The traffic light is stable," he says.
Scholz only "ended a slow process".
Lindner does not reveal much more.
He only assures that he was aware of the Chancellor's letter before it was published.
In the group of experts on the show, this time there is only praise for Olaf Scholz, albeit slightly confusing.
Welt
editor Stefan Aust judges benevolently: "This is a sign of belated strength.
He should have done that earlier.”
taz
correspondent Ulrike Herrmann
agrees.
Scholz has shown that, like Angela Merkel, he "leads from behind".
That means first looking at where the majorities in the population are - and then making decisions in such a way that everyone involved can "save face".
That "is a leadership style with a future," says Herrmann, because it increases the acceptance of all partners for Scholz as a leader.
"Maischberger" - these guests discussed with:
Christian Lindner (FDP) -
Federal Minister of Finance and party leader
Omid Nouripour (The Greens)
- Party leader
Nargess Eskandari-Grünberg (The Greens)
- Frankfurt Mayor
As experts:
Stefan Aust -
World
-Editor
Ulrike Herrmann -
business correspondent of the
taz
Jessica Berlin -
Owner and founder of the think tank
CoStruct
Aust qualifies that the decision was not difficult to make either: "Shutting down three nuclear power plants that were running would have been like sabotage," he says ideological conceptions of their party friends”.
After Fukushima, says Aust, there was a lot of popular support for a nuclear phase-out.
In view of the energy crisis, this developed in the other direction.
Maischberger flatters Lindner – and gets the FDP boss out of the facon with a “trickery” accusation
In Maischberger's interview with Lindner, the international situation only plays a subliminal role.
The moderator tries to get hold of the FDP boss with belly brushing.
She first asks Lindner about his "success secret" - thwarts the answer with a follow-up on the FDP's electoral losses in the state elections in Lower Saxony and North Rhine-Westphalia.
"My priorities are that good things have to be done for the country first," Lindner remains cool.
He is certain that "promoting our country" and "strengthening people" will also lead to the "success of the FDP".
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On the other hand, Lindner reacted irritably when Maischberger accused him of a "trick" - because the minister was sticking to his "debt brake" on the one hand, but on the other hand had approved the 200 billion euro special fund.
"I reject the fact that I'm cheating," he complains and complains: "The voters are welcome to choose someone else if they think someone else is better at their money." He himself makes his decision, says Lindner and makes it clear - without naming horse and rider - that he has "good reasons for it".
Energy crisis at "Maischberger": Lindner wants to "take a look at domestic oil and gas deposits".
Lindner reacted more relaxed when Maischberger put the option in the room to let the nuclear power plants continue to run after April 2023.
A demand that the FDP had put at the top of the agenda after the election defeat.
The minister declines.
"I don't want to have these discussions that we had a second time." He admits: "If I could have made decisions on my own, we would at least have provided new fuel rods" - even if only "as a reserve", which can be used when not in use could have sold again.
Lindner appeals for an "ideology-free view" in order to "get through this and the next winter well" and also calls for "the domestic oil and gas deposits to be taken into account".
The second part of the talk is about Germany's position on the protests and subsequent repression in Iran.
The German-Iranian Green Party leader Omid Nouripour, who came to Germany at the age of 13, and his party colleague and Frankfurt Mayor Nargess Eskandari-Grünberg, also of Iranian descent, describe their personal experiences with the regime in Iran.
Iran: Green politicians describe their depressing experiences with the Evin prison in Tehran
Nouripour says that at the age of six he stood all night in front of the notorious Evin prison in Tehran while his underage uncle was being executed there - after distributing political flyers.
According to Eskandari-Grünberg, she was imprisoned there for a year and a half after taking part in demonstrations.
At Maischberger, she describes the conditions: she was locked up with 70 other women in 70 square meters, was tortured and had to give birth to her daughter in prison: the actress Maryam Zaree.
She witnessed executions for nights on end, and finally fled to Germany in 1985.
The fact that Germany is doing business with Iran against this background leaves them "stunned," says Eskandari-Grünberg.
Nouripour also criticizes the Iranian leadership: "This regime needs massive pressure," says the Greens leader, he calls for stronger sanctions and condemns the Iranian deliveries of drones to Russia, which Putin is using to destroy Ukraine: "Everyone who hesitated may look at the sky over Kyiv,” Nouripour appeals.
Eskandari-Grünberg agrees.
"We cannot weigh the nuclear deal against human rights," she warns about the nuclear deal with Iran.
Conclusion of the “Maischberger.
The week” talks
Little news about the policy competence power word from the Federal Chancellery.
Christian Lindner keeps a low profile.
On the other hand, the descriptions of the German-Iranian Green politician duo Nouripour and Eskandari-Grünberg, which calls for a tightening of foreign policy, are highly emotional.
(Verena Schulemann)